“Winona” by Lem

(September 23rd, 2024)

“Let’s chat.” says a man from the future. “Let’s chat about Lacey!”

“Okay.” says a Native American woman.

“She’s…very…stuffy. …But it’s real.” says the man.

“We have aristocracy in North Dakota!? They cannot be the ultra rich!” says the woman.

“Are you ultra rich?” he asks.

“No.” she admits, smiling.

“Yeah. …Neither am I. …But you know…her family does privately own the majority of the Baaken. They’d be considered sort of a big deal.” he says. “If people are being honest. And actually…they are rich. Like actually rich. Not fake rich.”

“Then why do I hate her!? I’m a really good person.” she says.

“Are you!? I’ve read your interactions with Lacey. If there’s an Illuminati. Someone let me. And you seemed like a huge bitch.” interrupts Bobby Kennedy Junior.

“Is her family in the Illuminati?” asks the woman, mockingly.

“Are you braindead!?” asks a man.

“Yeah. What the fuck is it with people like you? I see you online. And people like you are always so damn arrogant, making stupid assumptions that are always in your favor.” says a Black man.

“I assumed she was full-of-it because she seems… Why would someone be so angry?” she says.

“About what!?” says an actress.

“Who gets mad for the reasons she did!?” she says. “I’ve never seen it!”

“Yeah. But she’s unusual.” says the man from the beginning.

“Are you insane?” asks Dr. Moritz.

“I wonder if we are.” says Dmitry.

“Why is she so…open!?” says the woman.

“Because she’s…got a very dark sense of humor.” says Elsie Hill.

“Can I just say something? We’re not as big of a deal as her.” says a perfume collector to the woman. “We just aren’t.”

“So…let’s unpack this. …Why do you hate her? …It’s personal for you. For you. …But she has no idea. …And you keep forgetting that? Or what? Because that’s what it seems like to me. …You seem offended. Like a decent number of other people. And it seems very personal to you. But I truly don’t think she has a cluewhy you’re so offended.” says the man. “Not a clue!”

“If there is reincarnation Lem really is one of my relatives. She’s not making that up. And in a sense she is too through marriage.

But I’m bringing that up simply to explain that if there is reincarnation, it was misinterpreted and still is by the majority of Christians and it doesn’t make God less powerful. It just means that people don’t understand what’s possible. But the other side is also claiming her and let if there’s reincarnation from great Britain in a great deal of rage. And that may be of interest to you. Because if there is reincarnation, that shouldn’t stop you from worshiping Christ and they might not be but I’m simply bringing that up to say we’re angry and it’s still Christianity. It doesn’t need to be put in the Bible. The Bible is fine it’s just that there are certain passages that have been misinterpreted in that way and it’s not actually a large theological shift. It would be something that would only happen in rare cases it wouldn’t be common and would be…bit it would not be necessary at all for salvation.

Why are we angry? Well if there is reincarnation because there’s not an easy way to protect her because we could tell her and tell her until we’re blue in the face that Lem was her husband and that this is all very silly, but she wouldn’t entirely believe us, so if there is reincarnation, that’s one reason why we’re angry. Why else are we angry because she really was a British aristocrat if there’s reincarnation and that’s her personality snd she’s not faking anything. The family that raised her is somewhat like that her father is Tom is an aristocrat in a sense, but if there’s reincarnation, she actually is a real aristocrat in the truest sense of the word in her soul and that’s not something that she can erase from her subconscious. When you started talking to her it was because Jack found you and brought you to her, and you actually were used to help her, but that wasn’t his intent. His intent was to harass her and harass you as well. and it’s interesting that they found you. He is very very stupid. I hope you’re not stupid too. I’m sorry if that’s harsh. The problem is if Slim was married to her, and they shared a life together, and they made children together and they were in love, and it was mutual and open and happy, which is what would’ve happened before he died, even though they did lose, they had miscarriages, which yes is brother isn’t Jack miscarried his own children if there’s reincarnation, he became cursed Because Linn was straight, he was love was straight regardless of whether or not there’s reincarnation, but if there is Jack lost two children because he shouldn’t have been messing with them when was very confused that’s just what happened. That’s not normal that’s not typical it’s far more common for a man like Lem’s to sort of fight his way out and try to be straight, but that’s not the reaction that lame had lamb had a sense of honor, even though he’s not been described that way, and he was not this raffish in the soul that people have described him as big I know he was determined to be honorable, and he felt that was the more honorable choice was to try to be a gay man And people make fun of the fact that he supposedly imitated homosexuality because it makes them scared because you don’t want to think that someone could do that age because you want to think that being homosexual is something that is totally organic and that people aren’t faking their mannerisms. No, that’s ridiculous to some degree some homosexual mannerisms might be Inherent to some degree and some people but for the majority of gay men they’re really just imitating another gay man that they saw it’s not like they were born acting that way, and that’s some thing people don’t want to except that that lame just imitated them because it points out that there’s something slightly disingenuous about their culture about their subculture and that they’re not quite as purebred and authentic and their mannerisms, as they pretend to be it it’s so much just it’s how they’re it’s how they develop overtime you know imitating a role model, imitating another man who they receive themselves as being like an in lens case it was more contrived. He didn’t find these mannerisms and find himself he found the mannerisms and imitated them the way that an actor award, and that sort of thing has been described as part of his personality in a different way by other people , that’s historical public fact that his mannerisms were a little odd but he tends to imitate people to a weird degree. That’s just fact an N and it’s funny because it points out that gay men when they develop their mannerisms that are more authentic. This is Heather that they’re they’re authentic. They’re actually gay Baby and it’s that’s not like they’re born talking that way or or acting that way you know they develop their mannerisms but it’s no more normal way you know it’s like anyone does when they see some thing that they like they start imitating it and we all do that, but that’s the normal development process of finding yourself Lem’s never did that lame, imitated homosexual’s, and it wasn’t part of the development process it was a genuine imitation of that then again he did that that was part of his psychology to imitate people that’s historical facts according to oral history just as much as everything else they say is facts facts but but it’s facts more in my opinion in the sense that someone made that observation about him Totally aside from any political agenda. They just notice that he did that it wasn’t about his sexuality. It wasn’t about Jack. It was just about him. It was entirely about his personality, his quirks, but then that aligns with what I’m saying and that’s what he’s been saying that’s what he claim to have done. That’s what he’s claiming to have done is to have faked being homosexual he imitated gay people who develop their mannerisms in a more normal way They weren’t normal for him and it’s funny because you accuse Lacey of being a liar and her mannerisms she’s not lame was she’s not!

Her family really is a far more aristocratical family than I think you like and you’re just gonna have to grow up and deal with that. I’m sorry. A lot of people who read this like who have been attacking her for the last eight years it’s repulsive it really is from my perspective from her perspective we find it genuinely repulsive if you repulse us with your stupidity and your arrogance, and your lack of ability to see the the bigger picture, and how stupid what you’re doing, is tearful for your own purposes for her purposes You’re not helping anyone.

But that’s the thing Jackie is angry because he feels like she stole them from him. That’s not what happened he stole. He basically stole them from her and cursed him self, and the whole family has been slightly cursed more than they already were by the way that they’ve handled the situation will say, it’s a total disaster and I have empathy for them but it’s absurd because she genuinely literally had him first. That’s the reality of the situation. If there’s rain, Carnation and lamb have said, and God has said God yes God has said anyone you’ve talk to you who is not narcissistic even people he knows have said no they were married, and they were happy if there’s red carnation, they were really happy in a way that frankly love never was with him. They had a wonderful, beautiful life together and it was obvious when Jack died to him that Glenn was going to die and just go back and be with her or try to him because he made a horrific mistake, but Jack couldn’t handle that and a lot of people in this family couldn’t handle that.

And so it’s sort of like Jack wants to have it out with her you know and get into that this huge fight and have this huge battle and it’s like they’re going to fight for Lyme and he’s destroyed her life and it’s just like he’s this tragic figure, and he’s heroic in his mind and he’s going to finally prove to love that he loves him to And they’re going to be together forever. It’s stupid shit like that. I’m sorry to call that stupid shit but it is stupid because the reality is that that’s not how the afterlife works. It’s like when you’re alive there’s a little more leeway things are a little less certain in a sense and fruit for a lot of people that’s very comforting if they’ve not rejected Christ because there’s so much happiness and that it’s like oh God loves me I matter I’m inherently valuable those are facts, and it’s not some thing that’s debatable but the downside for some people like Jack and that’s a lot of this is a Purgatory you know this is purgatory they don’t see a way out for their ego or whatever it is that they can’t quite comprehend and that’s somewhat where poltergeists may occasional come from so for Jack, he’s in denial or Seay because Linn‘s just not interested. Turns out Linn was actually straight and it would be one thing if Lacey was his preference and he would rather just be with her you know that would be Lacey would handle that we would all handle that it’s like OK well no he prefers Lacey but he liked you too Jackie you know you had a whole life together and you were a jerk And a narcissist but you guys love each other in your own way and that’s just you know what happened anyway but but him but that but that’s not what happened what happened is that line was actually straight and if there’s a B in Carnation and there might not be, but if there is especially it’s a will say that it’s a ludicrous there’s a ludicrous sense but that it’s a ludicrous situation because she has nothing to do with Jack. She has nothing to do with him and his sons it’s like I don’t even know Jack Kennedy who is Jack Kennedy?

And she’s being sincere because it’s like I know Lem’s he’s my husband who is this man and if there’s reincarnations like who is this Asian man who is stalking me? And she doesn’t mean it in a derogatory way towards Asians it’s really just why is this man why is he here sort of? Why is he talking to me? Who who the who the heck is this man and she’s completely serious because like it’s inconsequential to her you know she doesn’t was Jack harm she wished him absolute happiness, but the fact is, I am a straight, but the fact even more, so is that if there’s reincarnations they were married and happy and lamb just wants to be with her he’s not even remotely interested in Jack at all that’s a nightmare to him now, and some thing that I am a god talk about but it’s really a nightmare to him and that’s not what people think I guess although some people might wonder but I think the majority of people would probably have just us, but they don’t just excepted the bullshit. Basically I’m sorry and I think that somehow they’re together forever but no loves not even remotely interested in Jack at all. It’s just like you go away. You’re a freak I wish I never met you. And I’m not exaggerating.

*long silence*

I just paused from this paragraph from the last one for a while, because the phone died which was not a coincidence. The problem is she has no idea why Jack is bothering her really on a deep level or why she’s being held responsible because in a sense that has nothing to do with her she’s not lame she’s not her father and he doesn’t seem to wanna except that she’s not doing anything it’s not like a competition. It’s that her and mom are literally like what you would call twin flames he was straight even if he wasn’t you never know, but no there, they’re twin flames and that’s not something that she created. That’s not some thing that she determined that was what God made her to be and she had nothing to do with it. That’s just it’s like he’s mad at nature it’s absurd and it’s like he’s trying to hold a rock or a mountain responsible for being a mountain when he knows he’s dead he knows that God created the mountain and that the mountains just there but it’s like insanity. He’s determined that the mountain should be held responsible you know he doesn’t give a damn why God says it’s that the mountain is responsible for being a mountain and in his way. And I’m sorry but that’s essentially where her whole life is hot and has been because and you can kind of finagle it. I think that man was trying to help you and trying to help Jack. He’s a Catholic and I think he was trying to be helpful and it’s like if there’s reading Carnation, you know let’s do he was going to talk to you about how Lacey really is an aristocrat and that she could be genuinely upsetting to you for very deep reasons you’re Native American woman he was going to try to have a conversation that was really high minded and deep and sincere and compassionate towards her as a person and her culture but also towards you and he was going to try to facilitate the loving conversation. That’s not what happened it’s Devolls and that seems to happen a lot But that’s I mean it’s the phone just died now there’s her husbands on the phone and there is someone’s literally like hacked, like signed out a tree in the background. I am not surprised this kind of stuff happens to her all the time now where she tries to have these conversations like the one that I’m trying to have, and then she gets bizarrely interrupted, and it’s obviously supernatural I don’t care what you say. I’m sorry I’m a ghost, so good luck trying to convince me that there’s no god I’m dead but but anyway and I feel sorry for them. They don’t understand but the point is I am I guess are you in that place too though like Jack were you want to hold her responsible for something that she has nothing to do with I wonder do you wanna hold her responsible? Does Casi did Casi wanna hold? Her responsible did a lot of the Perfume community want to hold her personally responsible for their own personal misery and it’s like she does care and she would care but I don’t know if it’s really rational to think that she personally is responsible for more than what she is responsible for so could you hold her accountable for what her family did in a way you could, but probably not as much as the people who actually did it Could you hold her responsible for what happened with Ireland? I don’t know she’s Scottish I’m not sure that it really would make sense given who they are and her family actually think it might be slightly offensive and humorous to some people. If she’s a descendent of queen, Mary of Scots, it actually could be comical to some dead people specially, considering what that is historically I don’t think it would make sense. I mean her family has thought about leaving Great Britain for hundreds of yours she’s Scottish if there’s reincarnation and she is British they’re part of Great Britain she’s British but you can’t. I don’t think you could hold her responsible for for for what the English that that doesn’t make any sense. In a mini ways there the accountability partner of the English in a sense there definitely they have been historically. I personally think they’ve been helpful and that’s it mirable I mean Elizabeth loved Scotland. This is Scottish so that’s the thing you could hold her responsible for that, but then you have to deal with the reality that Elizabeth, my mother-in-law I am Princess Diana And Elizabeth my mother-in-law loves Scotland for a reason she loved it and a very innocent beautiful sense and why would that be because they’re their very kind loving interesting people and then that’s the problem. It’s like you’re angry at the English OK and she is it that’s a thing if it but if that’s a complicated conversation is a reincarnations or not why is she English or no is she English she is and then you have to deal with the fact that if she is English they left either in the 1700s or what it would’ve been in the 1700s probably regardless that they came to America and they left for a reason so if you deal with that if there’s not reincarnations but even if they Even if they yeah and then they fight in American revolution against the British so there’s that but then I think what you’re really getting out is why does she love the British so much with an S the problem you can’t make it personal and that way it Hass to be more about sort of their policies and how she grapples with that or some thing but then that’s where you have to so might be accountable to the fact that that’s a little absurd because then you’re gonna have to deal with German people and Russian people and Ukrainian, but every culture has its own sins so then how do you push through that? It’s not a simple prospect the man was going to try to do that at the beginning of this conversation and I think he could’ve pulled it off but that’s not where we are right now.

So I guess I still just are you wanting to have that deep and complex of a conversation or or are you are you what like? What are you like Jack were you just don’t really wanna have a real conversation you’re just angry or what is it because he’s right she has no idea it’s very personal. It’s all of you. It’s not personal to her and that way you’re personally attacking her and her family insisting that they’re not what they are and no her step mother-in-law did the same thing she attacked her family randomly Lacey said my family has money I don’t need to steal money from your son Before they were married and then she said oh you know Lacey‘s like I would need to steal money from him. If I really wanted money I could just ask someone in my family and then response to that the woman said all your families a bunch of con artist, grifters just out of the blue like you oh, I bet they steal money from everyone just like you she doesn’t steal money from anyone no one has ever accused her of being a thief other than there was one aunt in her family

*she’s interrupted*

There was an aunt in her family who accused Lacey of trying to take antiques from her grandmothers house to sell, and it was just a simple antique. It wasn’t something it wasn’t even an antique. It was a vintage sheet of music on a piano, and Lacey plays the piano and just wanted the music to play. She just wanted to play the music at home and actually her grandmother used to give them antiques. At least he still has Often but for some reason this woman did not like Lacey and was said this to her in a very cold, hurtful way she doesn’t talk to this woman anymore. She’s a very unkind person, but that whole family is not necessarily always kind him and no, Lacey was not trying to sell the music that was absurd. That was a very cruel accusation And she said her to do with Music just $30 of the sheet music you’re just gonna sell it and that was bizarre thing to Amy never knew who a button that was back before I know people were selling things that way very often so because Lacey is 40 and that was when she was 12 so it was a while ago and It’s a little ridiculous that she thought that that was even going to happen. I don’t know where she thought Lacey was going to sell the music, but he so basically that’s the only time anyone’s ever thought Lacey has ever stolen anything or would’ve ever accused her of stealing anything is it so such an antithesis to her who she is And it was very out of the blue. You know it was after Lacey did confront her and her legal husband about his alcoholism and his family was half supportive and then this was the other half so she said you know he’s alcoholic and he needs to get help and then they’re like oh you’re gold digging thief and your family is scum as a response to her Which is disturbing because her Jews you know I’m a certain level it’s like oh shit why the fuck are they accusing her Norwegian aristocratic, silver smith farm family of being thieves when they’re Jews? That was a very, and you know it really wasn’t. Jill is not Jewish by birth. She married her father-in-law and that was an incredibly stupid thing to accuse Lacey of being her no one else, but Jill told Lacey that that was the gossip and then that was what they were saying about her behind her back they were probably never going to say anything to her, and I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the reason why is because they knew it was a very dumb thing to do a because it may not be true and it’s not and be because they’re Jews and it just looks like a narcissistic accusation.

*she’s interrupted again*

Oh, there’s a lot of anxiety right now when she’s not writing things like those people don’t tend to tell her stuff or interrupt her but people are walking around really fast they’re talking really fast and that’s because there’s an incredible spirit of anxiety right now attacking her because of what I’m saying, and the possible truthfulness of it, and how offensive it is to evil.

This is hard for Jack to handle as hard for a lot of dead people who are hateful towards her, and a lot of evil may be mostly just Jack, but there could be other people to that are problematic. If there’s been Carnation, it actually has something to do with my family and yes, Winston Churchill believe it or not I was related to him, and, we were an honorable family we still are and it’s possible if she is a member of our family from the distant past her to speak at it is yes and that is it at so much distant relation, but not that distant the yes they’re angry at us who dead people if there’s reincarnations, there could be dead people who are very upset There’s issues of racism involved there’s a lot of stuff in the sense we’re on the right side of history, but when it comes to this particular situation, it’s savage attack. I mean her life has been miserable. She recently fell down the stairs relatively recently. Oh then she lost a lot of her hair And it’s just been miserable but God is helping her and she’ll be fine the long run but it’s a nightmare to some degree at the moment

They don’t kill her kids. They did try killing her son and actually tried killing her daughter to him but they hesitate because if they as much as they’ve tried, they also let up because if they kill her cans they’ll just be with lime her kids will just go be with lime and if there’s reincarnation with me and my family and will be extremely happy, I mean, they’ll miss their mother but the truth is that she would be taking in relative short order after that if her kids died I can’t imagine that she would be alive for more than four or five years and that’s not actually best case scenario, and there could be dead people who don’t realize that And then there’s demons that do Satan knows that and actually, there could be a few dead people if there’s reading her nation, who know that to who are British, so there could be a few dead, British people who are still choosing to be evil there in a very dark place in purgatory, if they’re not in hell And they are aware that if she dies it’s curtains for them and subway or some thing that is going to be very devastating and then you know why not just give up and try being good and not being evil and they try that actually on occasion, but that could be part of the reason, then believe it or not why The British are so kind to her because they’re British and so she has a sort of a unconditional love for them in that way and they can sense that and then a little tiny part of them that was redeemed goes oh darn well I better stop and try been good at least a little because it’s totally ridiculous to keep putting my feet you know in the mud and being a stubborn Mule about it if there’s a incarnation maybe there’s not but if there is the no it’s not there they’re problematic, but they did the most damage when love was alive if there’s reincarnation, and it had to be reiterated, because people have been questioning that the newest argument against lemon being straight is that there’s people who say oh if he was reincarnated, he would’ve remembered her, that’s bullshit. Do you remember everything from your previous life or did you just not have one all of you so there’s not reincarnation or if there is some thing happened and no he did but he didn’t remember there’s an explanation he gave you want which brings me back to what I was saying do you have a problem like Jack where she has no idea why this is so personal to you it’s really your fault and your problem in a sense because she has nothing to do with it. she just is here, she supposed to be at her sons. This was her appointment. This is when she’s scheduled and now someone screaming downstairs this is this is not her responsibility. She’s just following orders by God she’s innocent. This is not her problem. Why the fuck are you holding her so fucking responsible because it makes me angry too believe it or not.” says Princess Diana. 

“Hi!” says Tim Walz in genuine awe.

“Umm. I think that’s what we were thinking. Lacey would be like in her family we thought they would be like Tim Walz.” says a perfume collector. 

“ can you edit this Diana could you please because I want to know exactly what you said.” says the woman.

“I will have her edit this by tonight!” says Grandpa Pantell.

“Umm…I actually think it’s possible if there is illuminati that she really was supposed to buried Michael I am being sincere with that that actually makes complete sense to me.” says Chris Hayes.

“ people in our family would have been in all of that marriage if she had some help and raised in our family and still been able to marry him and yet right now, there’s another person yelling in the background but but they’re there wouldn’t have been a shock. People would’ve just been like. Oh yeah well, it’s a big deal but it wouldn’t have been as overwhelming as you would think it would’ve been. People would’ve been very impressed, but it actually went for some reason it wouldn’t have seemed all that shocking to us. “ says Lacey’s cousin.

“ I don’t know that it would’ve seemed shocking to us either. But that’s because we come from a farming background and we’re very down to earth. Do you think that that’s why it would’ve been shocking to all of you or is it something else?” says Tim Walz.

“ it’s some thing else Tim fuck you that’s my response you bitch.” says Princess Diana.

“ yeah I think you were a little bit annoying the way you’re just like hi hi and then you have the audacity after see me like a middle-class tourist in the illuminati to say who sings aristocratical silversmith family is just like us or are you actually trying to be helpful tip because we can’t read your fucking mind!?” says Tom Banks.

“ I wouldn’t bother responding to him. I really wouldn’t. Let’s hear a response from her cousin first.” says Jesse Ventura.

“ oh, I’m not from a farm family and that way sweetheart I didn’t grow up on a fucking farm. Try to keep facts straight in your head. I’m sorry if that’s rude but it’s just annoying to have to keep reiterating the same shit over and over again.” says Krystal. “ also I don’t appreciate her having to use my name because I I just don’t appreciate it. You’re rude. What is your problem anyway?”

“ and at that chainsaw goes off in the background had her son start screaming I’m not surprised you don’t have a bomb could just drop on her house and on her daughter this would all be over. That’s just a suggestion Jesus.” says Princess Diana.

“ you know let’s just cut the middle class tourism bullshit out that was charming and now it’s not Tim I don’t know if you’re trying to be helpful or what the fuck you’re doing but if there is reincarnation, I can tell you that the sepal are not in the mood, and it was a little obnoxious.” says Casi.

“ it was this is not the time or place for your frivolity and antics. That being said it was interesting because yeah, I think that is what people were looking for from her and her family but you’re from a middle-class farm family to him she’s not she’s not is that why you hated her for the minute you start interacting with her in the illuminati because you’ve been hating her for a while, is that why you make less money than her husband at your current job? You’re worth less than them and you’re not worth and I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that her neighbor has connections to you and they’re getting along OK and hopefully that’ll continue but if it doesn’t, that’ll be very bad news for you I guarantee you that.” says Ancient Egypt.

“ how why did you say hi to princess Diana like that that really was a little a little bit much I have to wonder if maybe we are a little ridiculous. OK I know I’m a Native American I know if you were to say hi like that to one of our dead chiefs, or even a Chiefs daughter, but that would be weird to us and we were saying oh, it’s because we’re dark and it’s offensive to us because we feel so weird because we’re dark and we’re different but I’m starting to think that’s maybe bullshit and I think she feels on display. I think Diana felt on display with that. I don’t think they liked that come in and I think they were trying to have a good attitude about it because it seemed innocent possibly on your part and they can’t read your mind. They’re not God but him but I think maybe that was a little culturally insensitive so I just wanted to explain that as a Native American, who’s she’s channeling just maybe don’t be quite so flippant and middle-class. Sorry.” says a living Native American woman.

“ I I did come from some wealth in Norway your family didn’t have that and that does affect the way people perceive things. I don’t think it’s honest just pretend like that’s not reality were stuffy in our family because I was stuffy. My family was stuffy that’s just our way. That’s just how we relate to people and my husband wasn’t a stuffy. He was actually a Democrat I was a Republican, but my kids were millionaires multi millionaires in the 50s because the same degree of how I raised them in my insight. I am an unusually intelligent person and that’s just my family. That’s the family I came from that’s who I am even if Lacey is not my biological great granddaughter, she still is my great great granddaughter and there are family problems in the family but the points out is that you can’t you cannot keep ignoring the reality. She’s presented a lot of information on her blog on Instagram you have access to it yourself through the CIA that works within the illuminati both to help you, but also to keep track of you if there is one and I don’t quite understand why there’s such ambivalence to truth and ambivalence to reality I think that Catholic was trying to start this conversation in a healthy direction of sort of understanding that your anger is not necessarily insanity, but that you have to sort of figure out who and where it actually belongs, instead of, just letting it all fall on her shoulders in the psychotic Fashion what is she angry about and then I know I’m talking to that Native American woman she’s angry because this is totally ridiculous. She’s not someone who ever would’ve wanted to talk to the dead and disobey God that was the last thing she would’ve wanted to do, but it feels like that’s what she’s had to resort to if there’s a illuminati to some degree for survival, and a sense to fight for righteousness, and it’s absurd to have to talk to the dead to fight for righteousness, but that’s where it feels like she’s at and it’s frightening to her because she worries if it’s the end times that she’s part of some biblical prophecy of evil becoming good or something I don’t know but it’s a very frightening situation for her so there’s some just genuine exasperation because it didn’t have to be so her life doesn’t have to be this bizarre so that’s part of her anger and frustration is that it’s why is this happening? This was not necessary. My life easily could’ve gone in a far more positive direction and I tried.

There are people in my family, who are jealous of her and threatened by her some of them handle it in a far more constructive way. They’re just a little catty towards her. There are some people in Seattle, who are just cold, which is so much more rational, but within her immediate family, so to speak of her mother’s family, there are people and I will not called them up by name who are stupid and how they’ve attacked her And I cannot claim that as part of my own DNA or my husbands patties idiomatic things like are you going to sell that sheet music when it’s obvious that she just wants to play it at home and it’s not being used or oh Lacey should finish her degree otherwise she’s not successful or she is you know always blaming other people for her problems none of that’s true. Lacey has four years of college and under her belt at a very good school that frankly the woman who said that couldn’t have probably gone to for whatever reason or didn’t thing to go to and her children didn’t do that. Well either Lacey‘s well-off she is successful far more successful than that woman or her kids are that was pettiness and jealousy on that woman’s part and she’s had a problem with Lacey for a while her kids have as well, there’s a lot of toxic competition in her family. There are cousins who would love desperately to show Lacey up to this day and her aunts and uncles are not mature or rational and how they’ve handled it and her mother has problems that I don’t want to discuss I cared about my granddaughter a lot. I care about all of them but a lot of the problems in that family come from my son-in-law And I am not a fan of his. I care about him. He had a lot of strings, but he had weaknesses that I am sorry I cannot take responsibility for her and her mother who raised her knows that and is probably a bit scared at the moment, because to be honest, it’s obvious if people are being rational that they’ve gone way too far with her if you read her blog post on Facebook it’s obvious that she’s not even sure if she’s a blood relative of people anymore and she cares about the family. She cares about me, but for someone to be that brazen and say, I don’t even know if I’m related to people in their own way When they’re in their 40s is disturbing it’s actually very disturbing who drove her to that level of of pain where she feels no connection to this family in a way that it’s not like oh I should tell people these things in private I’m just gonna blasted publicly on Facebook For the whole world to see you possibly know that’s not rejection that’s not to see that’s not insanity. That’s pain and in a way it would’ve been better for her to have stayed in Seattle because the family that’s out there is less toxic they were loving to her they were not nearly as toxic as the people who have she’s experienced in the Midwest and I think it’s sad because no they weren’t perfectly supportive and there’s flaws but they were trying to spend time with her. They were actually doing stuff with her. She was spending Thanksgiving with them she was spending time with them. They were going out to tea and coffee and taking trips to get you no seafood, that was normal. The family that she’s with now is very petty and catty about the whole thing and that’s trashy and that is not how I raise my daughter and that is not something that my family condones.

Yes if someone’s reading her blog and his family oh boy that’s interesting isn’t it because you know how I feel or have you forgotten how shamed you all were when you came to my house in the 1960s because your father was a deadbeat asshole and yes I did you swear he did come from a very old money family it’s not some thing that she made up that’s true but he was a jerk. Your father was an absolute jerk. He might not have that in his second marriage, but boy he was a jerk to my daughter, and we don’t do certain things we just don’t for a reason because they’re not appropriate. they’re not functional And you should not have put her in this position. The truth is if my grandson, Stephen and his wife who is very petty and catty towards Lacey and always has been since she was a little girl and yes, the father who raised her would tell you that in a heartbeat if you pressed him too enough Him I don’t entirely understand why, but she’s always had a bit of a problem with Lacey part of those that Lacey is unusually beautiful and she’s very intelligent and I think people can be very stupid and think that that somehow is threatening to them in some ways, even if the child is nice, or the woman is nice But there’s also something evil profoundly evil about it and then that’s what I’ll get back to that Native American woman but no what I’m trying to say is that I don’t appreciate us because this whole thing wouldn’t be happening if my grandson who she should have been in contact with when she was at the University of North Dakota in her freshman year if she had been talking to him and he had done his job as her uncle and peppered her with questions who are you dating? Who is interested in you? What clubs are you joining? She wouldn’t be in the situation right now because they would’ve found out about all the boys who were interested in her and there were more than one there was Joel. There was David. There was another kid with Chesney remember the name of but he was a Christian and saw, and Joel was pretty much the Christian to those are two young men who she should’ve been dating, and if Stephen had just encouraged her to she would not be in the position. She’s in right now she doesn’t blame them for that. She’s never even thought about that. I’m the one saying that she doesn’t blame people for things she never blames people for her own situation she does not. That was a Cruel accusation, considering how brave and tough she’s been her whole life. That was a very vicious accusation. And yes, my granddaughter made that against her, I know there are people in my family who said things about that specific granddaughter and Stephen that were mean my son said they’ll never amount to anything he did. He said those two kids will never mount anything but do you know why he said that he says that because he was looking at the context of the situation, and he assumed that based on The environment in which they were being raised in with their father being as toxic as he was here. My son assumed that they would end up being toxic as well that they have missed quoted him for yours because they took it very personally and you know it’s ironic about that they’re not. Stephen is important but they’re not that important. They’re important but they’re not is as important as some people. Lacey‘s father-in-law is far more important than either of them And there’s a lot of other kids in my family who are far more important than either of them so far it wasn’t just heat. There was some concern with that statement. Yeah and actually, I would bet that Stephen would at least agree with me that given the nature of the situation, there’s a few red flags, he was somewhat successful in his career to say the least. I am very proud of him. I’m actually proud of my granddaughter to whoever referring to, but we weren’t sure what was happening in their heads. We weren’t sure what they experienced. We weren’t sure what they were gonna end up being like and I don’t know what to say because this is exactly the sort of thing that I think we were sensing that they would end up being evil in someway or dysfunctional that would be problematic so if this is a real conversation they’re going to have to apologize someday to Lacey how far of those kids to be. This petulant, entitled self-righteous, trashy attitude. You don’t go around accusing a niece Terese of having problems that she may not have like control issues or problems with that so problems with that you barely ever see Lacey you don’t even know her all that well if at all anymore and that’s your fault, you’re the adult you’re the hot, and she knows that she’s not stupid. Her mother might have problems. She doesn’t have those problems trees and I didn’t either.

I see you know and I’m sick of hearing about how your daughter is so rebellious and difficult. Oh shut the hell up you are you are a problem child yourself your daughter is lovable and confused and needs prayer. If you give a damn about your daughter, you should be spending more time trying to desperately reach out to her and last time distancing yourself from her like your God Almighty you hypocritical snot.“ says Gunhild.

“Okay!” says Silas Seay. “ I agree with good health, but I, I think for good health sick, and our own, that we need to just be quiet for a moment on that issue, but I would like to bring it back to a Gunhild was saying good Hill lost her temper because this is very heated emotional conversation for her. She cares about trees. She starts about Lacey and she’s try not to play favorites. She’s trying to be objective and what happened to Lacey was very evil. Her mother that raised her did not stand up for her. She let her sister bully her when she had a six month old baby, and was very stressed out and was not receiving almost any help from her mother, who raised her at all her mother has been absolutely heartless absolutely heartless, but she has sent money, and I say heartless, not in the perfect scientific sense of the word, but objectively she’s been quite heartless, and that is not a good thing and that should be obvious.”

“ they are very disappointing people.” says Hamish Harding.

“ do you know when she laughs with her mother that was very Trumatic for our family but she was 20 years old and her father was abusive my brother and and yet looking at it now I am in shock to this day because it’s not as it seemed at this moment, her mother occasionally send stuff in the mail and text Lacey but that’s pathetic. Considering that she’s fully capable of being a lot more concerned about her daughter than that, her father, you could say well maybe her mother thinks she has some problem that she’s trying to give her daughter distance that’s not what it is her mother there could be some of that, but but her mother is choosing to be cold in a way, that’s cruel the father who raised her my brother has psychological problems that are sexual. At least he does not have those him and it’s just it’s a problem that my brother has his he has problems and I don’t have those I mean I don’t have those problems it’s that she doesn’t either. She’s not mentally ill necessarily almost at all and those also might not be biologically her parents, but the point that I making is that he still tries to have contact with her and it’s not a super close relationship. They don’t spend a lot of time but the time that they do spend is fun and he does make an effort to try to do something positive and it’s disturbing to me that people aren’t that you’re that your sister and you are more aware of how harmful you are as people because it’s sad when I was alive I would’ve loved to have spent time with her and her family we used to go to Breckenridge we used in the winter occasionally we had fun and it would’ve been nice to have spent some time with her when I was alive and it’s disturbing to me that you don’t seem to realize the fact that she’s not an icky unlovable piece of shit you people were privileged to have her all these yours get in communication with you and it would’ve been nice to have that privilege to to see her just once in a while I don’t I don’t understand. We are self righteousness and your sense of entitlement to God‘s truth it’s gross and it’s evil and someday when you’re dead you’re going to have to reckon with it if it’s not actually feel logically correct if there’s purgatory you are just as legalistic and hateful as the most cruel Catholic from the 1800s potentially there’s nothing moral about being a self righteous asshole Baptist.” says Ron Craft.

“Okay.” says Silas. “ well, that’s possibly a good thing to point out and you know what Terese is fine if there is a Purgatory Fair Guitars actually very fun because it allows your time to still be evil but I mean that in a godly way because it’s not evil that you’re reckoning west. It’s your it’s it’s your own mind it’s your own soul and the idea is that you’re not forced like God is good morally rape you you you have a moment to sort of process through everything, so some people when they die choose to just use drugs believe it or not that’s not very New Age but unfortunately, if they don’t go to hell, there are some people who stay on drugs, and they choose not to progress so to speak as some New Age people would say, and then there are some people of the vast majority people when they die don’t have that, but there are some people who do get stuck and they are still stuck and hopefully someday they will be on stock and they will deal with whatever it is that they’re avoiding but that that’s that’s we can tell you that’s a different topic. The point is though this idea that some Christians have it’s like you die and then you’re just mine is obliterated I don’t know how that makes sense. God does forgive us we are redeemed for him and faith, but it is if there is some sort of purgatory it’s not necessarily like you just die and all the sudden you’re a perfect angel because the process of doing that might actually be detrimental especially if we’re in a relationship with Christ and it’s not just like he’s some sort of machine and we’re machines you know there’s an interaction to it but you know Lacey if she is illegitimate will look at us as her family but unfortunately not as much as some people would like and that’s sad. There’s a reason someone told her to stay in Seattle and there are some of us who wish that she had, but if that’s that didn’t work, because there were people out there who were in our family that that were who she got along with a lot better and if she’s a legitimate part of it is possibly just genetic, they just get along better. She actually gets along well with your father, but there’s something about the combination of your father and mother in the four of you that it’s harder for her to get along with if she’s not biologically your niece, she loves you guys believe it or not whether you love her or not but, she has an easier time getting along with other people and they yeah it’s just easier. It’s not perfect but it is actually easier.

But that didn’t work out in a part of the problem is that Seattle is just very expensive but the homes were not what she likes and so it was all so new. The architecture was so new and there are some houses that are brick that are nice that are older, but then there’s a safety issue because if there was an earthquake that would be there in the first place is to crumble potentially you know so so shit and and then it’s like oh there’s these new houses that are you know 1970s or even today that are gorgeous near Lake Washington but We’re like $1 million and it’s not even the architecture that she likes their $8 million houses here in Minneapolis in Minnesota. That would be a dream for her own but there’s tons of land lots of sunshine a clear winter and that is just not Seattle so it’s like she’s gonna work all of that and pushing her husband to make quite like three or 400,000 a year if you could possibly do that if they were in Seattle, he could possibly push himself in the next 10 years, especially to that level of wealth, but then it’s like, even if he’s making you know, 400 500,000 a year in five years that still is only 500,000 a year and those are $8 million houses so then what they’d have to wait until his dad died and hope that they get 1 million and then hope that they get another 500,000 from her father at least and then that’s what a down payment so they’re in the hole for $5 million in their 60s. No it’s just depressing I mean it’s just it’s depressing and it’s Asmita yeah if they can inherited 1.5 million and he was making 500,000 I’m sorry but that’s clearly upper class but then it’s sort of like what are we even doing because if he really pushed himself he’s so smart that he could be making 700,000 or 1 million a year by his 50s I’m serious he’s that smart and he went to a very good school, if he really milked it and pushed himself And played every angle yeah by his 50s he could actually know he could his father could get him connections believe it or not he still has connections his dad does and he could Mark could be making 700s, 800 900 1000,000 a year living where though will probably in Connecticut or New York that is just sick because it’s like what the hell are we even doing she think do you hear what I’m saying if there’s being carnation, it’s actually literally traumatic to her because then that’s like her whole life Lem’s was making 1 million a year will say socioeconomically. He was the equivalent of people who were making about 1 million a year in Great Britain and then she’s like that life is exhausting that the stress of that the pressure and he’s talked about that somewhat the responsibility, the sense of doom you feel every day if something could go wrong and no she took her role very seriously and so did he say here is probably more seriously than a lot of people no offense due today we’re making 1 million a year and then his family had wealth, but no because he was making yeah about 1 million a year And they came from you know and or somewhat of a Socratic background what was there not worth today will see that’s the problem. This is great Britain so in a sense his family was worth about 800 million if there’s reincarnation his family was worth about 100 million this is very different than the United States right so his family was worth equivalent today about 800 million great Britain was the driver currently wealthy in the 1800s and so his family was the equivalent of 800 million today they were very wealthy. Oh yeah I mean 800 million though is that as much as the Kennedys are worth or as a little less I think the Kennedys at their peak were worth about 1 billion in today’s money and his family was worth about 800 million but I mean put it in perspective it’s not 1 billion but they were still very very very very wealthy so no his family was worth about 800 million and he had the Socio economic cloud of someone who is making about a millionaire But there was a lot of stress in that position and it was very difficult and he did his job. He did very well but then he died and it was miserable and she died and I don’t know what you’re expecting of her because her Mark and her are not that close their marriage isn’t that great And that’s a lot of pressure to put yourself in when you’re not really feeling up to it so to speak so even if they made 500,000 or they could handle that he could they could push themselves in Seattle to the point where he was making 500,000 year And they could buy a $2 million house OK and have a good retirement. They could do that, but what is a $2 million house in Seattle it’s basically the house that her relatives are living in and those are nice houses. There’s one on Vashon Island there’s one in somewhere else Bellevue, there are other places that there are up there people in her family who have two or $3 million houses but they’re not extravagant and frankly if she was living there should be at those homes for Thanksgiving anyway and we welcome to Phyl at home and so it’s like I could live in this house and feel comfortable in a $2 million house with a husband yeah who’s making 500,000 you’re doing really well and they be welcoming to her and it would be nice But it’s not it’s not on doable but it’s not the $8 million house on Lake Washington and then and yeah I guess where I’m going with us is just him she’s never gonna seem glamorous enough to some of you to be convincing the upper class I don’t know what you’re looking for. I guess you think until someone’s making 1 million a year they’re not upper class And that’s just absolute bullshit statistically they actually are about right things haven’t shifted quite that dramatically yet and yes I am an intellectual I am silo CA I was the abolitionist my family had slaves I inherited slaves. My family came over in the 1700s and I gave mine up, I gave mine up and I am an intellectual, so no I’m sorry, but I’m not stupid and that is my opinion. I think that the numbers are still pretty accurate when it comes to social class in this country.

, I gave mine up and I am an intellectual, so no I’m sorry, but I’m not stupid and that is my opinion. I think that the numbers are still pretty accurate when it comes to social class in this country.

Maybe in about 100 years it won’t be anymore if things stay the way they are in 100 years. The upper class might either be gated and very hard to reach. Oh yeah be making the equivalent today if I bought 1 million a year but that’s not where we are right now so we’re still close enough to the age of the thriving middle class that the numbers are pretty accurate, but now in about 100 years will be in trouble her family you won’t even be able to reach that would be Instagram is the 20010s and 100 years there would be no Instagram there might be some thing like that within the upper class, and they may communicate with the lower classes to keep control of them And not for evil purposes, but far more just for safety reasons and logistics. But but that’s very dystopian isn’t it you know if the illuminati had chosen to attack her specifically things would really actually be a lot better, which is part of the reason why princess Diana got so upset at him walls because he acts so middle class and incredibly self-righteous but the truth is this is sick. She really is a good hearted person, and this attack on her is demented because you’re angry at her for being honest with you essentially and you’re accusing her of being a classist hateful bitch When really all she’s doing is bursting your narcissistic delusional bubble and if it’s not that then please be my guest explain to me how it’s not that but as far as I can see, that’s all it is you people are just totally narcissistic and you didn’t like the fact that she pointed out to you that you were full of shit And that she didn’t appreciate you coming off like you could somehow imitate her and one of her in a real way, but there are people in her family who do one of her, and occasionally win because they actually win her cousin who voted in the electoral college may have one opt her on more than one occasion, and one because she actually beat Lacey so to speak it actually was a competition, and she won how their fuck did a woman from the worst part of Philadelphia with the Hispanic background of peasants and some peasant German ancestor from Pennsylvania. How the fuck did she think she could compete With Lacey that’s insane and incredibly insulting and how the fuck did any of you think that she was working her butt off to buy perfume she wasn’t it was obviously inherited money. It was obviously something that was just given to her. She’s obviously an authentic upper class person I know she’s not a snob. She’s not stupid.” says Silas.

“ i’m on like welfare in Great Britain and I’m Italian and I was kind of a bitch to her and I was a little presumptuous myself but I’m Italian and for some reason it wasn’t as offensive to her because I think she thought that there was just some misunderstanding, and to be honest, I might have fun I think people were jealous and started lying to themselves about what they were seeing that was pretty obvious and saying that sounds like some sort of like I’m sure her writing this she’s probably just given up on sounding like she’s innocent, but I can say from my perspective that it’s true that there was something weird about the whole thing and I started off in reality but then somehow I got LURD into thinking that we were more like than we are and honestly no she’s prettier than me. It’s just true and she’s not faking it. The camera really isn’t taking her picture. Well I can tell I’m more photogenic, but I’m not as pretty as her and I am and I’m still beautiful but I’m not as pretty as her honestly it is a little weird to have to even say that but really when it comes down to it how why did you guys think that she was like impoverished Lacey do you have pictures from that time because I am with Silas on this one it’s weird and I actually think we did scare her I don’t think it was the competition thing so much is it just it seemed bizarre. It really did. We seemed really bizarre and then I’m gonna circle back and I am I don’t know what that Native American woman is thinking but I would like to respond to Diana and I like to respond to good health and Silas and say I don’t know what happened I think I’m a little narcissistic to start but then part of it is that we couldn’t. I don’t know Alicia I think she’s channeled people who have said things that Mary not even be true I would like to respond. I don’t know what their answers would be, but I like to respond. Could you post a picture from that time that I would’ve been talking to you know who I am.” says a Sicilian woman. “ also I’m Sicilian, and and Michael true and a woman gets as angry as she is. We take them a little more seriously we’re a very chauvinistic culture but an angry woman is not automatically a crazy woman or a stupid woman or a evil woman it’s more just like what’s going on grandma can we get more curious so could you post a picture?”

That’s not a good picture of you post something else.

That’s better OK that’s like a three or $400 $500 jacket coat from the North Face. Those tea cups behind you are hundreds of dollars your lipstick is probably 40 or $50 and your hair was probably a couple hundred at least your skin is flawless and you look like you’re about 17 in your skin. I know people probably said oh she looks like she said no she doesn’t she looks Extremely well preserved because she spending thousands of dollars on skin care there’s a big difference but people said asinine things to her like you look like you’re a teenager and then she would be like I’m not a teenager and they be like she can’t take a compliment. She’s a bitch and it’s like how the fuck was she supposed to interpret that as a compliment, you moron And then people will take that and be like oh my god she’s a bitch and she wasn’t a bitch you insulted her downplayed her beauty when she’s already not being photographed well and is obviously a sweetheart and you’re just like fuck you you look like a fucking teenager. What the hell is that? I mean people make comments like that all over Instagram now but this was like 10 years ago and people were generally less toxic back then and she was taking stuff to Hart. She was taking things to Hart. She was reading them and nowadays I think people just are like whatever the comments or just everyone gets attacked. It’s a thing people are assholes, but that said it wasn’t quite as pervasive or common especially with a smaller account of like white for 5000 people so it was and they were all real so I think she would’ve at least as far as she knew so I think she sought that it was weird and hurtful and I don’t blame her for getting hurt after being sad you know people telling her stuff like that all the time and every day when she post stuff it was probably it probably affected her I mean at first it’s like oh you know this is it just you know I’m not gonna take these people seriously but then it’s like they post something nice because it wasn’t as pervasive so they post something nice for like three weeks And then they’d say somethings shitty and so or DM her and say something even shittier in private and I think it was just I think it was hurtful and I didn’t. I don’t think I was sensitive enough about that and I expected her to just be super friendly to me when she had no idea who I was, and Just didn’t feel comfortable talking to also if I’m saying this in the afterlife I know that she also didn’t see the messages for some reason and I panicked and was like why are you talking to me what’s going on and then I cried about it and private, and then I made fun of her But she actually didn’t even see the message. Her life was in such chaos. At that point that it was I mean I was attacked and she was attacked when I talk to her because I assumed that she was evil and she wasn’t. She just didn’t even see the message and she ended up And she liked it. I think she saw it and then she wasn’t sure what to say and then she didn’t see the second or third one or some thing I don’t know, but the point is it wasn’t malicious it was open or she was totally overwhelmed. She was not OK and I think she thought somehow I would know that and I, I’d I did not assume that of her, and to be honest with you part of it is because I chose to think poorly of her instead of thinking of her, as who she actually is, and was presenting herself as being which is what her her in-laws did to you it’s like she seems so sweet and so smart people ever and that on this block you’re so believable you seem so pretty and so smart and so upper class Why the fuck can’t we take that seriously because that’s what it is that’s all she is there’s nothing more there’s more to her because we’re all complex people but why the hell can’t we just let it be that because that’s literally all she is in a good way like that’s that’s it. It’s really fucked up that we can’t just let that be And I’ll tell you part of it is that her hair in this picture looks kind of unkempt and the other picture is not flattering at all and so people focus on that instead of realizing that that really, it’s still is just what it seems like it seems posh at first and then you’re like oh no this is a white trash person, pretending to be posh except she’s not that doesn’t really make any sense so I’m just gonna ask her some questions on behalf of her bourgeois in-laws, who are wealthy, but probably bourgeois, Lacey if you’re really from a nice family, why don’t you get your hair and nails done?” says an Italian woman.

Alain Delon laughs.

“ I can tell you why it’s because of how we raised her ask Gunhild’s why.” says Maria.

“ that was seen as a white trash thing to do.” says Gunhild.

“ so you can dye your hair, but it’s not supposed to have like extensions or not supposed to have fake nails or that scene as trashy?” says Ken.

“ yes because it’s so fake and loud and abrasive to the eye even if it’s charming you would never get lash extensions. You would never get hair extensions. You could grow your hair out you could have thick eyelashes you could have thick nails, long nails, but you wouldn’t use fake means to attain those things because it’s just sort of icky, it’s icky. I’m sorry that’s the way she was raised and also oh no, we are group on a farm even though I was from oh so much prestigious family and I had a farm and so the idea was that you were supposed to sort of be a little more down to earth than that, you know play in the mud with your hands gardening, and Lacey does garden room and it’s not competitive for her it’s different and I think if she could have her own state it would probably be you realize that she’s not really competitive and she likes people to be impressed but she’s not actually a competitive person so there’s a difference between thinking well I am pressed people versus I’m going to be better than them so no put the ideas that you’re supposed to get your hands, dirty and playing in the mud, gardening and stuff.” says Gunhild.

“ as I was saying, you know that’s actually very upper class old money if you got held in like a railway what is a Schiebels realize that or not and I know that I’ve looked into it I don’t think that people realize I hope there’s worshipers why certain things actually are and no she’s not bourgeois Lilly Pulitzer isn’t really versus white anymore which is why she wears it because it’s kind of like how Tucker Carlson used to wear a bowtie and actually there’s a lot more thought put in everything and that she wears that you think she’s not queer she’s not bisexual. She’s a lesbian, but she has a sort of ambivalence towards certain aspects of the feminine subculture that can read as homosexual because she was raised to be somewhat ambivalent towards them, a lot of people in aristocratic circles actually are raised that way Carol and Callaway at times was like that, but it showed up not so much in her nails and hair as much as in her shotting us at times with her lack of regard for deadlines and her soggy salads she was a terrible cook and she had a hard time eating deadlines. She wasn’t raised in the upper class, but I think she is simulated somehow at Cambridge or some thing or in her prep school days and I don’t know her family with someone upper class on her mother side, but the idea is that you don’t use sort of a bell against certain expectations because it’s seen as being liberating.

And I don’t think people want to admit that they don’t really know what they’re looking at when they look at her like Casi I can see where you could purposefully misconstrue what you’re seeing and pretend to yourself like you really know what you’re talking about and be like oh, that’s a poor person. That’s a poor person right there, I get it you could make it look like that in your own head but that’s not really what it is most of what she’s wearing is vintage so I got secondhand some of it was new and sort of avant-garde slightly and then her hair OK I mean her hair is like four or $500 at least in today’s money but that’s the thing like I know all that because I have researched it because I’ve had to because I made a mistake myself if there’s an illuminati, I’ve actually had to own up to that, but this is a thing that I don’t quite understand I’m owning up to it because I’m being faced with evidence and I are psychics in the illuminati have read. Casi is being less antagonistic towards the truth, as time goes on, I don’t know why, but she seems slightly less than taking a stick at this point and I am to him there’s something a little creepy about it because I am somewhat Italian. If there’s reincarnation Casi is Italian the woman at early is Italian I worry that there’s something cultural about it on some level of Americans don’t completely comprehend and that somehow overtime if you keep arguing arguing with an Italian they start listening if you make sense or something, I don’t know, but I’m starting to realize I might’ve just been wrong and she could’ve just been more aristocratical than I thought she was but I don’t quite I mean I get where I was coming from. I’m stubborn I’m hateful I’m better I’m snobby if there’s no illuminati I am incredibly conceited at times and narcissistic and self-righteous and shallow OK And Diego was homicidal, but that’s me and Diego that’s Diego and I am that’s a totally different story. I don’t understand where people are coming from who refuse to accept the reality of who she is at this point if you’re still reading her blog and you were following her eight or nine years ago, what don’t you understand because I feel like she’s been making good arguments and pulling out our brains begging us to think for about a decade and I just don’t get it I’m stubborn but I’m not a total idiot and I am kind of ready to let go and why are you guys still there because some of our psychics read you guys is still being stuck in thinking that she’s a little a liar or some thing I don’t understand why where is the lie?” says Chris Hayes.

“ do you know let’s just get a graphic up for what upper class and middle class are in Minnesota which is where she lives.” says a saint.

Oh there she is just the other day actually was just yesterday or no two days ago and that’s not a flattering picture of her but that’s far more what she looks like than the ones that she used to take. She’s not prettier than she used to be she’s actually less pretty, but she just is that bad at taking pictures of herself and she’s that unphotogenic.

According to that they’re in the upper class practically if not, and in the upper class eight in their upper class, not upper middle class upper class so if that’s accurate, she’s at this point in the upper class when you were arguing with her before she was upper middle class, which is what she said she was There are some people who are wealthier. She fully admits that that’s not ever been what she’s been saying she’s always just been trying to correct you’re an accuracy and I think that’s what hurts so much is that she can’t figure out why you’re so profoundly hateful towards her to the point where she can barely figure out how to think straight when she’s arguing against the nonsense that you’re saying because it’s such bullshit, and then how is she supposed to argue as you’re like brutally attacking her spirit using Jack Kennedy and his psychotic hatred for her I mean if that’s what’s happening if there’s purgatory and he’s a poltergeist and he’s disgustingly attacking her and if there’s reincarnation I’m sorry to offend his self-righteous daughter, but yeah, your father is a jackass jackass Japanese bitch and having your son go on stage and say he is my hero. What a fucking low moment for your family .

I don’t understand why you people are so stubborn I agree with Chris and if he was raised Catholic it’s possible that he literally has asked me to pray for him on numerous occasions in his life. He doesn’t know who I am and I’m not going just going to disclose that But I’ve heard him pray and I am a little offended if this is a real conversation if there’s an illuminati, I’m offended because he’s right this isn’t your stubbornness. What are you people about? She felt offended because it is moronic. It is psychotic to think that if you’re a woman who can’t afford a house That somehow you’re at her level when she’s now upper class she is upper class she really is. She’s also old money and she’s extraordinarily beautiful and it’s not fake. There’s no plastic surgery. She’s not a hat she’s not have a nose job she’s not liposuction she’s not got painted on eyebrows she’s not lost exorbitant mount of weight that’s her body. She’s very beautiful clothes on and off, I’m just being honest with you and it’s very weird to me that you think you’re her equal Nancy and a lot of Nikki Casi U2 why did you people think you were her equal I understand to some degree with Alicia because their family is somewhat well-off as well wealthy they’re wealthy. Your family is wealthy Alicia you’re wealthy family. You have $1 million house Speaking in reality world that is wealthy at least you would call it well off you know what I can see why, but in reality they’re wealthy so I can see why Alicia thought she could sort of take Lucy down a peg or a relate to her or something but the problem is Alicia you were never near as pretty as her your family is trash compared to hers that’s just the truth and so is your husband. Your education is complete shit compared to hers and you’re not as intelligent as she is either and neither is your husband, those are those are hard Colfax you’re and nobody and that people were making fun of her husband. Her husband is a literal genius, who went to a very prestigious school graduated with honors and yes, his father is wealthy in a way that Elisha is not his father is a very remarkably wealthy man relatively speaking, that’s also reality him. Here’s the problem him that’s reality but at least you were never going to be a smart, or as pretty as her or as well bred you were not going to bully her then if that’s what you were aiming to do from the beginning was bully her and all a lot of people desire to bully lazy for some reason, it’s like an American pastime it’s sick. I know Europe is not the same especially not an Instagram in the perfume community. They might have fun, but if she was there, it would be a different story. If if you do use a New Age term had to read her energy in an honest way, if she was in front of your face, I know if you Australians, who might be able to lie to themselves, but not as easily and in England, she was very popular. It was like going home for her people were very nice to her. She was very at ease. They were actually concerned about her. Her hairdresser was genuinely worried about her, but was trying to approach the situation very carefully And that’s normal decent humanity and to be honest if she was in Germany or France or Switzerland, for the most part people would be more loving to her there too so it’s a little odd an actually even if there’s written Carnation, and there might not be even in Japan she would get better treatment, I am sorry to have to say this but it’s an American problem and I don’t. I don’t know what to say because it’s an American problem in Great Britain. They sense that her silversmith family exists and they treat her. Oh yeah not as like a celebrity or a member of the royal family so to speak but I am, probably someone of some prestige. Yeah still a really relatable person but someone who is definitely not a trashy evil hearted freak, and out is there people who are poor, who relate to her as a human there and then there are people who are who would see her as probably being here potentially upper class in England and no they’re not weird about it they’re normal kid you know to be honest Canada is even less creepy with her when they go to Canada on vacation it’s a mental oh, it’s mentally helpful to her and lowers her cortisol levels because even in Canada it’s less weird they-

And that’s the thing her husband has worked very hard for his money and she’s worked hard to I mean he doesn’t do the housework she does she cooks she cleans she takes care of the kids. She does some yardwork. She actually is working and writing this blog at the same time so don’t tell me she’s not working that’s a lie, I know her husband would not have a clean of the house and the house is messy but it would be for messier if she wasn’t his wife there at the truth says she tends to throw and clean and it’s very upsetting to him and he has a hard time with how she really rearranges everything and then it’s like where did you put this? Where did you put that? Why are you throwing that away And there’s not a thank you it’s more just why are you moving? That’s why are you cleaning that what are you doing? He does do some laundry. He does try to help but she does the majority of stuff and he works and it works out fine but don’t tell me that she doesn’t deserve some credit for her success because she does he asks her advice About different decisions that he’s made and she supports him as much as she can and keeps his life going and away as a wife and dad I don’t. I think that you guys have to stop under playing that because that’s reality.

Him could have married someone and had a very minimalistic house with very simplistic, decorating and hired a maid maybe but I have a feeling most those people would not have caught the fact that he was not a Holick it. There are very few people that he was able to marry Anyway, so the oh wow OK so here’s the thing I don’t I don’t know what to say right now and if there’s an illuminati, yeah there are a lot of people who are sick of dealing with us. Some of them are new to those ranks but they’re sick of it and it’s just it’s getting weird they’re starting to lose track of what’s going on because they were angry for some reason. Why are you guys angry you know can you have that discussion or do you not even know? Are you basically some people would even say are you sentient beings and that’s the problem if this is a real conversation and there’s no illuminati a she’s had a fight for her life she’s had to defend herself, and unfortunately, given the nature of the attack that was imposed on her, she’s had to resort not to classism, but something close to it and it’s sad, because then people who are being told to feel guilty for being evil like Jeff Bezos himself See what she hast to go through and see the the nonsense and think you know I don’t know are we in a post liberal society where it’s people like me and her and her family who really know what they’re doing who are really human who have actual emotions and then these jackasses who pretend to be street cleaners when really they’re just entitled nut jobs Walk around and pretend like they have feelings and thoughts just like us when really they don’t know they’re losers so if you were to shoot would end up hunting the wrong person and go crazy on their ass thinking that they’re a rockstar like Jack Kennedy and yes that’s the problem with the DNC because if this is a real conversation that is how those people are forgetting to perceive you people it’s like you’re all just idiots and if you die, you’re going to turn back into this peasant nut job who’s going to go and stocked the wife of your dad lover who doesn’t even know has no idea what’s going on and you’re just gonna go crazy on her ass and start trying to kill her and get her to choke to death When she’s five on graves not because you want her to die and be with God and be with your ex lover and be happy but rather because you’re you’re just so mad you’re just so fucking mad and it’s not rational it’s not logical it’s not grounded in reality it’s insane and it’s this trashy, entitled bullshit that a white trash person in the most pejorative sense can sometimes be Pooping and hollering and yelling illogical sentences because their mind is worthless to them potentially and that’s how they perceive you guys, so please try to defend yourselves if you don’t want us to if you don’t want people just start thinking that you’re worthless and expendable resources, and barely human.” says a dead saint.

“ you keep holding out for the moment when she stops being what she is and that’s never going to happen you’re not correct in your assumptions about her and there’s no hope you’re never going to be right because you’re just wrong so we can try to analyze her picture within the minute that this person saw it she’s like oh and this is worse expensive then why aren’t you focus on that? Why did you guys focus on her on come to her and her awkwardness instead of the things in the picture that were expensive and the fact that it doesn’t make sense for her to have had them if she wasn’t privileged like why did you focus on the bullshit instead of seeing the actual reality and realizing how pretty she was, and realizing how privileged she was because that’s the reality of the situation why did you do that to yourselves? Why because it’s depressing it really is. I am in the CIA and I have seen middle-class people take a nose dive since we start attacking her and I really do worry that it’s just that people are they can’t handle it anymore. She has possibly been sadistically attacked by the Kennedys and Jack and reticular and it isn’t logical. It’s insane it really is. I think it’s very possible psychologically that he was straight and we’ve been saying that for a while it’s possible, he even helped kill Jack his Jack’s family has a hard time hearing that because they were so they thought they were so close to them and they thought they knew him and they could trust him even though he was letting their kids use drugs. They thought that he still had a heart of gold and he did to some degree actually I think he just dead but I don’t think they understood that that didn’t excuse his behavior, and they made excuses for him that weren’t entirely rational and they didn’t realize that he was probably letting the kids use drugs not because he was madly in love with Jack and thought they should all just go die and be with him but because he, he might’ve actually hated that family and his depression wasn’t just because oh I am you know I’m in love with Jack, it was possibly something more psychologically complicated and not perverse complicated and unfortunately there is a perverse ones in the situation because it seems like they can’t handle Jack’s actual sexuality. It seems like they’re still very closeted about it as much as they pretend to be with super liberal Democrats. I don’t think they can handle the reality that Jack was not straight, and that he was a narcissist both that he was a narcissist and he was queer. I don’t think they can handle that and no, I mean Lem’s could like I said was possibly straight and very possibly bisexual. Very possibly straight and I think it’s very probable that he could be this eccentric and unusual psychologically. If it matches with everything we know about him that we can verify and we’re a little better than Wikipedia and David pets cause we’re like you know the CIA so it’s kind of our job to be aware of things that are extremely complicated more than just like a biographer or of the Wikipedia, I’m sorry that’s hard for you to hear isn’t it yeah because you’re experts you’re like God you know everything don’t you and I’m sorry if I shouldn’t say that but that’s how you people come across and I can sense that psychically that you’re just like oh my gosh this woman’s going on now about how she’s in the CIA and she thinks she knows more than David Pitts about people when she profiles them. I’m in the CIA you fucking idiot. He is a mediocre historian, potentially at best according to some historians are far more prestigious than him. I’m sorry fuck you and your inability to handle reality. I’m in the CIA you’re not and neither is he!

I know the sad truth is Bobby has been clobbered. He is either in operative for the Democrats and he has taken a lot of conservatives in with his bullshit, which is sad and pathetic or he’s an idiot who didn’t realize that he was going to end up being totally Shadden, I mean this thing with Olivia is obviously a set up. He’s being made to look like an ass just after endorsing Trump that’s not a coincidence, do you know how many affairs that man has and then all the sudden this just comes out of the woodwork my ass that it’s authentic and Cheryl‘s obviously playing into it but she also if you can think this through was not happy that he endorsed Trump so it’s very possible that she’s playing this whole thing with Olivia up even though in reality, he’s been cheating on her it out for a while and it’s been very painful to her because she’s mad that he’s support that he’s supporting Trump And that’s the problem people don’t think that through but I have to that’s my job.

I am, but that’s the problem. It’s sad to me because the Irish were taking a beating but Louis and F Scott Fitzgerald, and other people to was just like that’s not right like she doesn’t want to be you know hateful towards us. She’s actually very hurt him and if she’s Scotia, yeah she did not die in Scotland, seemingly or in and in Ireland rather she seems to have actually been a pretty good terms with the Irish and I don’t think she understands why, she’s been so attacked. I don’t think she’d understand why she was being attacked by the Japanese either way which brings me back to what I was saying this doesn’t make sense because if there’s reincarnation her love, it’s like they’re totally separate. They’re like British cousins to the aristocrats or something and Yeah they’re from wealth and prosperity and precision. Oh that’s really pretty but they’re straight and they’re just you can call them weird they’re not weird but you can call them that but they’re not like their street people and their twin flames if you’re going to call them that but they’re totally separate From Jack and his family and it’s weird to that saint as we are to a lot of people that that that that they like wanna punish her for what he did like she’s the one that orchestrated the entire thing when they’re the ones that did it I mean, Jack if there’s reincarnation was very evil and how he came back and how the whole thing sort of came into fruition. She’s not even supposed to be here, if there’s reincarnation but she is and God has allowed it but the problem is I don’t. I don’t think she has anything to do with any of this but they’re acting like she’s literally her father and that she’s like this angry I don’t I think it’s I don’t know it’s kind of scary to her but it’s like they think that she’s like the 6 foot five bully who is like a straight man who is like orchestrating all of the shit, and that it was her that she was the man she was the straight man there’s so convinced of that and no she was not the straight man that was lame and they were a lot of New Age people. That was so my gosh maybe that’s true no it’s not. I’m sorry you’re gonna have to to stop looking for an angle. She was a woman she is now he was a man he is now and they’re both straight and for some reason they’re trying to hold her accountable here I go again having to repeat myself they’re trying to hold her accountable for what Lem did. It’s just weird because it’s doesn’t. It’s insane intermingle with Nancy is telling me in her spare right now, possibly cause we might’ve contacted her that it’s narcissism you know Nancy it could be they could just be narcissistic but Him or some reason that’s hard for some people like Lacey and even sometimes for me to hear because it’s still so insane because it’s like why Krystal why we got allows us and it’s hard for Lacey to handle but then also yeah I mean if there’s been Carnation, it’s a big why is God allowing this for her I think on a deep level because it’s just really hard to handle Because no I’ve been people wanna sell maybe early evil in Great Britain I don’t think they were quite that evil so hold your horses but it’s just it’s so hard for her to handle it because she just thinks what did I do what the heck is going on and I don’t deserve this. If there’s been Carnation, London deserve this. This is insane, him Catholics would say it’s all gonna be used for God’s glory. You know it she’s totally open to that but it’s just hard to believe the guy would allow it even so maybe that’s why that’s not really reincarnation ha but him even if it’s not, Jack still has brutally attacked her, and then it ends up almost being the same thing and it’s like everything but she’s Tom’s daughter and she’s cursed you know even if that’s true it’s that it almost becomes the same question and it’s Grevious to me because I really think I might have hope to kill Jack I really think it’s possible that Lyme actually did help orchestrate Jack’s assassination I’m not I’m not making that up I really think it’s possible. I think he might’ve been so fried from trying to be kind to him that he just couldn’t handle it anymore and it just he snapped whether he was bisexual, gay or straight. I think it’s possible and if he was straight, yeah that’s Even more possible OK so I look at that and I think you know if he was letting those kids use drugs that’s weird and it’s strange how he kind of disappeared from the White House right before Jack died on a psychic level the fact that he was there for was it Some scary and even I can’t think of her name out of my head. Some Scandinavian actress was at the White House and he was there for that. You know that’s weird because he may have actually found those. I’m an attractive and I don’t know there’s something a little strange about it, so I don’t know I kind of think maybe he did have something to do with it it’s like he wasn’t involved as much in their life but then he was there when he was shot at his when he said to Jackie oh, I’m sure he’ll be fine there’s something weird about that. Linn was not a stupid man, he was an ambulance worker in World War II. He had to have seen headphones in the war. He had to have seen people dying. Why did he think that Jack had such a fighting chance of survival when he knew that he’s been horribly shot in his back and his head I mean he knew how bad it was and then he says to Jackie I’m sure he’ll be fine Jack’s too stubborn to die. That’s literally what he said. I’m sure he’ll be fine. I’m not like literally verbatim, but it’s literally what he said. Oh, I’m sure he’ll be fine Jackie Jack’s to stubborn today if I know anything about them, what Jack’s too stubborn to die wow Jack’s too stubborn to die even though he was brutally just shot in the head in the back and there’s a very slim chance of survival that asshole that I know is too fucking stubborn to die so I’m not too worried is there any comfort to you bitch I mean why did he just say that I’ll tell you why because if he had something to do with his assassination that’s not something you could say to the first lady if you’re working with the CIA and they’re covering everything up.

No, she’s very beautiful yeah, but in that generation wasn’t as into certain things either so keep that in mind, I mean Queen Elizabeth never got extensions as wealthy as she is.

The thing is, though is very despair and loosing for me because someone was trying to come through and trying to tell you guys that it’s reminds them of when they were in the north tower and they were like on the top floor and they thought they were going to get rescued and it just was never gonna happen. They were trying to warn you that that’s what this is like and you guys are basically just nuts, but that they did they didn’t come through clearly enough and so I’m gonna try to say that for them but this is sad because this is a real conversation. Yeah there’s people who see Jack and they’re like well the Kennedys and they really the Kennedys really were a big deal for the middle class and the lower classes. People really were farmer browbeaten by the upper class old money in America Previous to that administration that’s a thing it really is culturally it is and so to see that happened where Jack is like a problem enough time but if there’s reincarnation I’m sorry he’s embarrassing. He’s a very embarrassing person to be associate with right now. that’s just reality and even if it’s not, it’s still embarrassing but especially if there’s reincarnation, it’s super embarrassing to be associated with him. I don’t know if Carolyn realizes this, but Japan laughs at him and thinks he’s a joke, yeah and that’s sad because they don’t seem to ever realize that so that’s gonna be part of it. Chris is trying to do partially because he works for MSNBC is that he’s trying to help you guys realize that this is not conducive to a positive outcome of the election this year this is not helpful to us. You know if you’re a liberal Jack really is like off-the-wall and it’s kind of making a seem weird and making people who are middle-class and pretentious or conceited and social climbing or lacking awareness of themselves seems sort of stupid and disposable and that’s really despair and using Lacey and myself. I come from a Somerville class background and, I think it’s solid enough so in a way where I can sort of agree with her and it’s really weird to me I don’t get it from her perspective it’s it is it I’m sorry but you’re gonna have to try to see her perspective as much as you don’t want to because you don’t think you should have to. That’s nuts. You’re gonna have to actually try to understand her perspective I’m sorry, so from her perspective, it’s like she just got out of the house and there’s this like army marching past her house from Japan with like drums and like bugles and they’re just like fuck you prince of Scotia. We’re taking you to Egypt and making you conquer us using witchcraft and she’s just like what the hell and this is her is Lacey And so then like they take her on a private plane financed by the Kennedys to Egypt. She’s hanging out in Egypt and she’s like I don’t believe in reincarnation and they’re just like it doesn’t matter and Rosicrucian is Catholic says just trust God that he won’t send you to hell and try flying and so she’s like OK so she jumps off of like a pyramid and is suddenly flying, I’m not kidding like flying and the Kennedys are just like how is that working? How is she flying? That’s not real how the hell is this woman flying through the air and she’s like I’m Scotia. This is what we did and they’re just like that’s evil that’s witchcraft and she’s like this is what you told me to do And then some of them are like this is weird I want out and then some of them are diehard jack Kennedy fans I guess and so they’re just like there’s there’s there’s something weird even though it doesn’t make any sense because they told her to do it I guess thinking that if she tried it wouldn’t work or something and then this woman is like flying through the air and she’s just like I don’t know when do I get to come down like this weird and Satan’s getting angry and demons are getting angry from ancient Egypt because they’re like why are you making us fight with God because this woman doesn’t wanna be doing this and it’s kind of creepy and this was like a long time ago and Satan, starting to get scared and freaked out and wanting to just kill people because he’s freaking out so much and no it’s really bad.

And that was before the Japanese what time you say that was before the illuminati found her and you know it might not be quite because I don’t think she was ever flying through the air but I think we’ve almost had her doing stuff like that and illuminati but she’s like I don’t know if I’m flying through the air because someone’s trying to trick me into thinking I’m Scotia or if it’s in the Bible and I’m actually Scotia I don’t know I hope I’m not going to hell flying through the air. And then that’s where people like me to see that in real like OK this is real. We can handle this, but then that means a jacks a serious problem in the afterlife. He’s a poltergeist he really is he is he is going to the CIA he is a very probable poltergeist and Wow some of the people who would’ve expected more of him are very disappointed because they wouldn’t have expected him to be that stupid to be frank on a narcissistic level. OK Nancy it makes sense that a Nancy we know you’re not stupid but we don’t know how to explain what you thought on a narcissistic level. It’s it’s like OK I guess he’s being psychotic but you know on a certain level though, it’s not just narcissism Nancy because I feel like there’s some thing where it’s not smart and maybe it does just go back to narcissism, but why can’t he handle the fact that it’s lame who wronged him instead of Lacey I have theories, but I would love to hear what other people have to say.” says a woman in the CIA.

“ i’m ready to talk. I think I’m similarly crazy. I don’t think I was crazy is Jack I’d like to think when I die I’ll be so content and happy then I’ll just be like you know there’s absolutely no reason to keep focusing on this woman I’m just gonna go be happy I’d like to think I’m saying enough to be like that, but I think for the time being, I can relate to him and honestly I think that’s what he wants. I think he’s gotten the whole world in someway not literally but a lot of people to turn against her in this psychotic profound way, because he feels like misery likes company he he wants us to relate to him on which is narcissistic narcissist do that they get people to team up with them to attack people, what what I’m wondering and no I’m just admitting that I am may be a little off. I have a feeling she tries to introduce herself to people and they just don’t listen I’m serious I get that sound psychically that she’s tried to explain herself on numerous occasions to people both her and her husband have, and it becomes deranged, and it’s sort of like they use some thing cheap that is pathetic and compare it to what she has that’s not that’s impressive and then they add on. You’re not any more special than me which is nonsense I just sent I’m curious do other people in her class experience that?” asks the woman.

“ yes frequently and yeah no actually I do we send our child to a private school. I am actually one of the parents at the school that she goes to with her child and yeah I have experience that with people I don’t entirely understand it either though, it’s not some thing I’m a millennial too. I don’t recall anyone ever talking about this an N in anywhere in film and television growing up. I don’t recall this being a thing, but it seems to be a thing where there are some people who just cannot light up. My husband and I are worth probably about 3 million that we’re wealthy not as wealthy as some people but yeah 3 million not and we’re in our 40s we’re pretty wealthy. Some of that is inherited wealth. We’ve probably gotten about 1 million so far from our families over the years and I would bet she’s inherited probably around half 1 million from her family and his family combined so they’ve inherited about half of what we we’ve inherited long-term we’re in a similar class as theirs but I’m I will admit that were somewhat old money and there’s connections. Yeah we have connections to the Pillsberry‘s, or some thing distantly through birth and genetics and whatever the point is, we’re not like the Pillsberry‘s but now we have some something like that and her family am people do that to us too and it’s people who have the neighbors we live in a nice area but there are people within a block or two of us who have homes that are worth 02 or 300,000 less than ours and they’re Hispanic and they’re not like Lacey and her husband are sending their kid to a private school. Their house is nice these peoples house is not it’s not a nice house it’s a small house and it’s not in great shape. Their houses only for 500,000 and there are people in their neighborhood with more expensive houses but Lacey and her husband are upper class, so you could look at their house and be like or than how is that different? It’s dramatically different people need to learn how to lose the argument and stop thinking they have the moral authority because they’re poor or something when they’re hideous people at heart and someway maybe not in every way, but in someway at least. Him so they look at people like me and her and they’re hateful and they have like a two or $300,000 house it’s Credi there’s a whore and Hispanic it isn’t about them being Hispanic but Z they’re obviously not like my husband and I and we don’t care we really don’t we really truly doubt I mean we’re for 3 million and we live in like a 400 $500,000 house OK so we’re not show off people we’re not show offs and we’re not social climbers. We’re looking at our house is a luxury and an investment not as the you know flag of our family, and the only thing that we have that’s of any value And so it’s hurtful to us it’s hard to handle because we’ve wondered at times if we’re actually being snubbed by them in the psychotic way and we’re not getting it it’s like we’re not supposed to be in this neighborhood are they looking at us with suspicion, because they refuse to except that someone who is worth 3 million could be their neighbor do they think that would be evil? Do they think they’re being hateful? What are they thinking because they don’t say that they don’t say you don’t belong here go live in a nicer area I mean people could say that to Lacey like stop placing perfume and go buy a painting just get over it so we could’ve said that to her and she would’ve respected it so I could say to her out just go to the north oaks and quit, pretending you know it to be frugal or stop being so frugal like go live your life or some thing and someone could say that to her and honestly no she wouldn’t love it but it’s not like it’s going to be a bad thing to her so to speak and she would try her best to receive it but that’s not what people have said and I said what they say that’s what they do instead is be like we’re better than you and some people I don’t know it’s hard to know what they’re thinking but other people there obviously I’m sorry Nancy but they’re obviously in Casi but you’re obviously not and yeah this is sick. I’m being helped slightly from someone right now. You’re obviously not in her class it’s obvious and then you add Alicia with her million dollar house that’s a McMansion to some degree even though it’s very nice house. Um you got her to stand up for you I think that’s sad and I don’t understand anymore than she does. Why do people choose to do that there is so many better ways to handle it you know I don’t understand it it’s just it’s there’s so much more dignity and just being honest and just saying you know you make me feel uncomfortable I don’t like you here and I’m I’m sorry, but that’s so much smarter Timmons trying to cut this conversation off at this point because they’re getting scared. And I’m not going to be bullied or intimidated anymore than she is.

Nancy, renting a $700,000 house does not make you an owner of a $700,000 house it doesn’t that’s insane Casi having a family from the south does not make you old money and aristocratic having family that fought in the Civil War does not make you an aristocrat or or the revolutionary war coming from an actual rooster. Craddick family makes you aristocratical and she does. Aristocratic not rooster Craddick that’s someone who’s pathetic try to make fun of me because they think it’s funny and it’s not. It’s childish and embarrassing to them especially on an intellectual level.

That would be Jack Kennedy and his family. They think it’s funny to change it to rooster Craddick no and I’m outing you as actual ghost or too stupid to figure out how to literally exist possibly Jack. He is too arrogant and conceited, and in capable of admitting that he might not be very bright to just be like I don’t think I’m that smart I probably should just shut up and listen but no, he wants to think he’s a rockstar 170 genius IQ giant of a human because that’s what people expect of him and that’s what he’s high off of constantly and it’s sad. Hopefully he will not see stick assist forever but know in this moment he still doesn’t exist.

I think people like Tucker Carlson need to slow down and realize that her family really is like mine. We are old money his families not necessarily even though he pretends to be and you know what she would never send her kids to the proper school that you went to she would never send them there. There are schools like that in the area. She would never send her kids there for a reason, I wouldn’t either and we mean you no disrespect on a personal level but you’re wrong a lot of you are just dead wrong in your estimation of how the class system in America works and part of that is because you think it’s so arbitrary it’s not in reality. It’s far more exacting because that’s reality or understandings of it have been rather arbitrary and our perceptions are a little off but the reality of it does still exist and is observable. I think she said a pretty good job observing it and there’s nothing that she’s done that’s necessarily hateful at all I I just think you guys don’t want to hear the truth. Am I bought a cheap house? She bought a cheap house we’re living cheap lives that are good quality but are cheap, and you know the truth is she pay $600 for a Le Creuset are Creuset dinner sets actually should probably pay 1000 if they could just make it in France but nope but people like me and her that’s what we’re looking for it we’re looking for $1000 playing white dinner size that we will just use over and over again and that is old money to try to find some thing of quality that’s real quality and timeless Awesome prestige but really is more about the quality and you’re willing to pay yeah even 2000 possibly if it was a decent enough set booth and it really would have to be a decent enough size and she can’t pay that for some thing that’s been made in China and that’s not meant to be offensive to the Chinese but no she’s not gonna pay $2000 for a dinner set that isn’t what she’s looking for And she’s not gonna pay 150 for something that is of questionable quality and that’s that’s that’s old money OK I’m sorry that’s actual old money and I I just I don’t I don’t get it either. Why don’t you want us in your neighborhood and is that even what it is like I’m lost and I’m hurt and I don’t understand why these people who are peasants are acting like they’re better than me and she doesn’t get it either.” says a mom.

“ I believe you, I think you too really are that hurt and offended and I don’t think it’s crazy or bitchy. I’m a homeless person who may or may not have recently died or maybe close to death Lacey knows me I mean she’s seen me she’s driven past me quite a few times and I know she’s been worried about me, what is it? That’s the bothers you so much is it is it really just that like what is it? Is it just creepy like what is it?” he says.

“ oh yeah it’s creepy. It’s really creepy because it’s like how does this make sense I mean it’s like crazy making it’s it’s scary because it it’s like they’re flipping the entire script upside down they’re just saying screw you to reality and then you’re like what the fuck am I supposed to do? Sorry for swearing but it’s just it’s bizarre and it’s just it just leaves you wondering what the hell is going on.” she says.

“ I think that to be honest they’re ignorant they’re not used to dealing with actual old money, and instead of being humble, they’ve chosen to be narcissistic, jackasses, Nancy Casi, and probably the majority of us. I still have a student of knowing better. I’m included in that because we pretend to know what old money is, and even be old money in our aesthetic, but we’re not my wife and I are not and I think Lacey is someone like her would expect us to know better with all of the social connections that we pretend to have. I think she would expect us to know a lot better.” says Dmitry. “ but I think mostly what it is is that they just don’t we don’t know a better we really don’t. We have not talked extensively with people like her not as friends, I mean, maybe to some degree and then sort of like you’re supposed to be impressed by them and an off of them I look at some of the houses that Lacey has that she’s talked about and I think if I were in those peoples presence I would probably feel intimidated very intimidated walking into their houses talking to them and these are her relatives or in-laws and I think why can’t I handle that that’s actually who I’m talking to when I talk to her they don’t live in a house like that fine but there’s something strange about the fact that I can’t just accept that and I’ve had to cope with that but that’s me. You know what I think part of it could be frankly how sweet she is, and this is where I get a little angry at her parents at the very least. I think they raised her to be very down to earth and that’s fine. There’s nothing wrong with that, but I think they went too far because there’s been down to earth and then there’s being confusing to people and she’s confusing. She’s very confusing to talk to you because a certain level she makes you think you’re talking to someone like the woman who runs the Instagram account trailer park pretty where it’s like. Oh this person’s whites and middle lower middle class and they’re really humble and really sweet and really grounded and maybe sheltered, but not necessarily and you just think I’m just gonna let myself go because this person is nice and they’re probably really down to earth and humble then you talk to her more all the sudden she’s super aristocratical and you’re just like what the fuck where did that come from and it’s weird.” says Dmitry.

“ him it was not me it was not really my husband. It was not us a lot of our grandkids are very stuffy and pretentious and you automatically know who you’re talking to It’s. They’re not nice they’re not unkind, but they’re not people who you would walk up to, and feel comfortable with in that way, I don’t think most of her first cousins and her family are like that either believe it or not they’re a little unapproachable as well. It’s possibly just the parents that raised her to be honest and they’re not entirely mentally healthy people and no she’s not like them. I have to reiterate that, but they’re not entirely the best people will see and that could be mostly just them because I don’t think almost anyone else in the family is really like that and you know part of it too if she’s not their daughter could be that they weren’t raising their daughter so they did things thinking that she would have a reaction to it that they would have and she didn’t. She may have taken it the wrong way so to speak because she doesn’t think like them and so I’m not sure what she what they taught her but it’s probably not, as functional as it should be because they misinformed her about how everything works to some degree and they still would there’s a reason she’s not in contact with them. My granddaughter has an art major. She works as a janitor and she gets a decent amount of money from oil, she talks about the oil like it’s a welfare service that she receives possibly or some miraculous blessing from heaven. Um, she’s not really grounded in reality and that way she tends to have a very self pitying victim mentality about herself and and that isn’t poverty mentality because she’s a very hard worker she’s very frugal. She’s very smart and she’s very neat. I mean her house is just as clean as where she works and she’s always been like that, she has a savings. She’s very frugal but her idea of herself is that she is a victim and she’s poor and that’s insane. Those kids in that family that’s part of what I was trying to bring up earlier they don’t understand the reality of who they are, possibly other people in the family do and don’t, but they especially seem to struggle with understanding that they’re not poor kids for a poor family they don’t fully grasp that they feel beneath other people who are their cousins but then they’ve never realized that means that they’re the exception, and that most people in the family are a lot wealthier and more aware of their background than they are. The thing is that they’ve been successful. They have multiple degrees successful businesses they invest in land they’re not stupid people, they are my grandkids but their perception of themselves is way off. Somehow they did not raise their kids that way though I don’t know so how the kids never quite got that, but Lacey did and so yes you’re right it is awkward talking to her but she’s not he’ll intended. She has good intentions, she has a very good heart but no she’s not aware but it’s not lack of. It’s not the lack of self-awareness on it is unfortunately not trashy it’s that her parents were unusual people and she has not been loved or cherished and so she’s not been able to figure out how off she is and in attacking her and acting like she’s got a problem when she’s really just too humble is pretty weird when you stop to think of it isn’t it?” says Gunhild

“ I am Kathy Nesheim and I can’t stand her mother. I was very close to her for years I married and her family I was married to her great uncle Bennett and my family knows that it’s well bred. Actually I don’t know if we know as well as we should but no, my husbands family was pretty wealthy they were proper they were pretty prestigious and people used to get mad at me for saying stuff like that but the truth is if they really were and I was right and I knew what I was looking at him know and I’m sorry I can’t stand her mother I used to be very close to her, but I really can’t stand her mother and it’s very possible that after I died, I didn’t know what to do and I may be part of the reason if she is talking to the dead that she kicked her mother out on Christmas Eve Lacey yelled at her mother and said, why do you always take the bus? You always have to take the bus don’t you? That was me who inspired Lacey to say that does that sound like something? I would say that was you inspired her to say that yeah there could be a purgatory no Becca does not have to always take the bus. Becca has refused to learn how to drive because cars scare her I kid you not Becca refuses to drive because she insists that driving is crazy and wild and she can’t do it because it’s too scary and that’s not since Becca has driven a car she’s possibly driven a tractor and I just can’t stand that about Becca because that is a very bizarre obsession with feeling poor they were not Little House on the Prairie they weren’t rich until the 1910s or 20s but they built a very nice house Becca it was not like Little House on the Prairie. Those people were never wealthy and they didn’t come from wealth.

If I had raised her, she would’ve snubbed most of you, and she probably would’ve Mary Joel. Would that have been more to your liking if she just snubbed you?” says Kathy.

“ would she have snubbed me?” says Alisha.

“ she would’ve thought about it she would’ve she would’ve considered it we’re not impressed by your house it’s beautiful and we’re impressed in a way you’ve worked hard for it but we’re not impressed like we’re street urchins and we want to worship you you used to give people things and she gave people things to but I know I saw you gave someone a pair of shoes and that woman was an absolute show off but you gave her a pair of shoes and she was just so thrilled to get your shoes that would never be a conversation you would have with Lacey do you know why because she doesn’t want your used shoes you dumb bitch.” says Kathy.

“ I thought that she would, and I thought that it was sad that she couldn’t just be humble enough to ask for them or something like that.” says Alisha.

“ yeah no she didn’t want them from you she didn’t need them. You were intimidated by her and you lied you’re like housing prices are really expensive and Anne in Portland. She lived in Seattle are you brain dead?” yells Kathy.

“ we could barely afford our house.” says Alisha.

“ why because you have a spending problem and too many children for you to be able to afford because you’re a backward, religious nut job or what?” says Kathy.

“ oh my God these people aren’t being nice. I’m sorry if I was a narcissist that I sun! Dammit!” says a narcissist.

“ oh, OK so I ate I’m tracking. This is actually totally rational. You’re not that impressive Alicia you’re just not.” says the homeless man.

“ OK that’s really really really really really hard for me to handle like it’s really hard for me to handle that.” says Alisha.

“ we can snapper what’s Nopa will slip and she’ll be sad!” says JFK,

“ you’ll snap her jack you want to snub her now?” says the CIA.

“ yeah I’m going to snub and she find out what it’s like to be snubbed by the Kennedys!” says JFK.

“ oh I would love to experience being stuff that you’ll be quite the experience I dare you to I wish you would Jack I really do that would be a real shift. Please try!” says Lacey.

“ oh, snap her I’ll stop her jack and then she’ll feel like you’re snapping her!” says Alisha.

“ what no I say we’re not in the same class Alicia, my family a Baroness the billionaire was Alicia you’re not a billionaire we have a really loud house on Cape Cod and it was really a big deal you’re not so I can’t snap you because I don’t want to that’s not my heart for you, but I’m going to have to say it doesn’t matter if you stab her because it has the dirt it does not have the same affect as if I do it.” says JFK.

“ I hope it is not nothing. How about if you don’t snap her or stab her or any of that because I think that’s just a bad idea.” says Betty White.

“ oh, you know you were going to ask a very relevant question why did you stop? “ Kathy asks Alisha.

“ i’m about to tell Lacey to stop if there’s green carnation I almost think she needs to just stop but OK let’s hear Alicia‘s reaction.” says a British man .

“ she can’t easily stop because we have her soul as much and hell as we can manage if there’s incarnation.” says Honey Fitz.

“ over Lem Billings really really jack what the fuck is wrong with you?” says Cheryl:

What the fuck is wrong with me? What a husband cheat on you what’s wrong with you bitch why are you inferior goods you look in the mirror and you make a list of what’s wrong with you bitch!” yells JFK.

Lacey is he does he is this real? Does he actually seem possibly Japanese?” says an Irishman.

“ possibly very very possibly I mean it’s not very likely but possibly.” says Lacey.

“ he’s insane.” says the Irishman.

“ yeah but usually people like him don’t become quite so powerful and famous and then have a sort of cult following after they’re dead.” says a victim of a serial killer.

“ what an America has seen is almost like a patriot, the biggest patriot of all so there’s not as much accountability. People are probably more suspicious of George Washington than they’ve ever been of him.” says the Irishman.

“ I feel like taking a drill and defacing the fake grave stone on Lem‘s grave. I feel like if I did that I honestly would get brownie points at this time I’m not kidding I seriously feel like someone would just be so thrilled by me that I would get like a sticker when I died at a pat on the back.” says Kevin Spacey

“I try to ask your words make them some Japanese. Do you have any idea what it’s like being stuck as a Japanese man sounding stupid when you’re a genius will deck will Lita, who was incredibly important.” says JFK.

Kevin laughs. “ are you being serious? Are you serious Jack? You’re serious right now?”

“ no I’m serious as is crazy it’s very difficult for me. I’m stuck with Japanese accent on my tongue I can’t get rid of it. It’s not permanently know if I work honey did my dad say you shouldn’t have done this yourself Jack there’s nothing I can do to save you from this fate, if you are incarnate it a new Japanese, I can’t stop God and I don’t know it’s very hard, because is my is my accent.” says JFK.

“ oh wow!” says Kevin laughing.

“ so why did you decide to stop yourself from asking me what you were going to ask me Alicia?” says Gunhild.

“ why because it just seemed like I was being given an out and so I took it um but maybe I wasn’t so why were you snapping me? Why would you why would you question me so much like I think part of why I get so offended is because I feel like I try to be a nice person and I don’t understand why, you’re so hateful towards me.” says Alisha.

“ you seem very full of yourself and arrogant and conceited, and a lot of your background is bullshit. Ours isn’t, and we saw through you and you were offensive. You seemed incredibly backward and bourgeois and annoying to my granddaughter, my great granddaughter, and frankly it would seem like that most people of my family, to be honest, but most of them would never say anything that’s released. He’s a little different than most of us. You would never know that we didn’t like you. You would never figure that out. You would probably disparage us and look down on us, and we were just tolerate it and they go well. Oh well because it doesn’t bother us as much it. It bothers Lacey for some reason and I don’t entirely understand why, it’s a personality thing she’s different than me she’s different than her parents. Here’s the catch so sweetie behind your back we would think you were white trash idiot I’m not exaggerating behind your back Alicia we were think of you as Trailor trash, pretending to be rich, I’m really not exaggerating, or we would tolerate you and pretend to be your friend and then in some crevice of our mind we would be a bit suspicious of you, so we would’ve never party with you or take vacations with you or we take rather lavish vacations. You know on that episode of my of everyone everyone loves Raymond where her parents go to Machu Picchu that’s our family but like we’re ahead of those people so we were going to places like Machu Picchu in like the 80s and taking great photographs of It in the family that her husband was raised in was a little bit like that too, so not as much as we are but enough so that they kind of have the same perspective um, so basically we were just think of you as nothing if we were if if we were to really think of you, we would probably just think of you I will do you know she went to a state school, so did her husband and they’re not from North Dakota. You know they’re weird city people from Portland and know where we were just think of you as being a nice and nice family a very nice family and I say that in a very condescending way you’re a very nice family, but to your face, we would be all in your all in a bowing to you and making you feel very superior and special withholding information from you probably about how to do better or what’s going on in the world or who we really are them behind your back we would just be like well you know the truth is she’s kind of definite wet that’s our approach

Lacey is a little different. Her reaction is to be offended right away call you out in her own way and then just sit and wait to hear your response while she tries to have it out with you all right on the table all the cards showing right up front no time to waste in the sun was a no fucks to be given she’s terrifying in that way it’s not like Jack it’s very different and no she was trying to be honest with you and it is just you know you were offensive so she was offended and then the idea would be That you would sort of you know change your attitude towards her and maybe be a little more reticent versus early humble, but just a little more reticent to be quite so in her face with your snobbery and your attitude so it’s like OK this woman is getting really offended and she wants to call me out if you could be humble, then back off, does that make sense so that’s what she was up to she was just trying to sort of have it out with you in her own way. She’s not passive aggressive she’s polite. She’s careful she’s worldly and she was trying to sort of have it out with you as much as she could, and then just to get out in the open that you were annoying to her and offensive but you know it wasn’t necessarily personal hopefully and then it just got really ugly and you got used by people who are really evil potentially or you are your self. We hope that you’re not though, I think people like you and Nancy and her neighbor and a lot of other people don’t realize who she’s used to dealing with people in her family are very old money, upper class and some of them are literal beauty queens I mean they’re stone in the beautiful her cousin, Linn is shockingly shockingly pretty Lacey is too, but Linn played it up And now they’re country Estates worth a lot that are huge and that’s what she grew up with and so when people think that they’re really making impression on her, they’re not they’re just not why would she think of snubbing you I think because of the reasons that she was raised to him where it’s like you looked a little suspicious, and you look like you were frankly trying to hard and that is either someone who is a difficult person and I don’t mean a moral person. I mean someone who’s obsessive everything Hass to be neat as a pin. Everything Hass to be exactly as they think it should be everything. I know she’s not like that sweetheart. I’m talking about someone who you seem like and I don’t think you really are that person but that’s I’m just giving you the truth Seay gonna have to stop, you came across to her like someone who is super hyper fastidious if you were raised as well as she has been like she has cousins that are living a life somewhat like yours who have three kids instead of five who have very neat beautiful houses that are worth a lot they have country cabins whatever you wanna call them and they’re beautiful very hip happening cool people very very popular looking people so to speak him, but they usually are not as as obsessed with things looking cute for lack of a better word so like anthropology, they might buy things from there, but they’re not as focused on it making everything look like that like J.Crew anthropology whatever is cool Loro Piana I know they might actually have Loro Piana in their closet but they’re not as focused on it as you seem to be where it’s like everything has to be absolutely perfect at or that you were fake and pretentious. And being fake and pretentious in our family is bad news are the same way that it might be to Casi and JD Vance you don’t do that you do not commit that side of being pretentious it’s not that we’re not sophisticated we really are extremely sophisticated people, and believe it or not, but there still is a sort of hatred For being unnecessarily fancy and so you don’t you don’t do that if you really like something you can like it, you can wear Louis Vuitton and Laura Piana, but you certainly don’t do that and act like you did so Lacey is considered eccentric to them with her perfume collection him if she bought a Louis Vuitton to dinner they were saying that she was getting a little too into fashion or if they drove there Audi in about for about three or four years ago to Thanksgiving in Seattle people thought oh they have an Audi am I but now that it’s getting older they would stop saying that and then be like 00 they bought a really nice car and then they’re gonna drive him to the ground and honestly it’s it’s so much aristocratic she didn’t hate you you were offensive so I’m going to pose this question because I think we’re done talking at what point do you people realize that you made a mistake you don’t have a choice even if it’s hard for you and painful if you’re a narcissist we’re down to the wire you’ve got a stop playing games she accidentally may have found the illuminati Jack Kennedy was sadistically harassing her. This is an atypical circumstance and you can’t afford to be this stupid. I need some of you to start thinking about what happened and the questions I’ve asked you and get back to me because we cannot keep playing these games.” says Gunhild.

“ I respect that so she was taught to be friendly to everyone and open hearted and a hippie and we took that the wrong way Lacey I know you need to go but let’s re-analyze that picture and I want you to be open with me and tell me what I should’ve looked at, and realize that you were not like me from not that I am hateful towards you. Not that you’re hateful towards me but what should’ve been my cue be honest because you know what what should I have read, and maybe it’s not even a thing anymore because someone’s gonna copy it but at the time what what what was it?” says Dmitry.

“The look in my eye and the lighting.” says Lacey. 

“ she’s right it is that subtle and that’s spot on.” says a British man.

“Let’s do one more.” says Dmitry

“My attitude. The piece of furniture behind me.” says Lacey.

“That’s like a $2,000 vintage secretarial.” says a perfume hater.

“Yup.” says Lacey.

“It’s completely different than what we have been doing.” says the Sicilian.

“One more!” says Casi.

“I’m naturally beautiful. Unphotogenic. Very unphotogenic. But my skin looks very good. And I’m unashamed.” says Lacey.

“That’s before you got braces again.” says Casi.

“Yup.” says Lacey.

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“The colors.” says Lacey. “The mood.”